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i think the priorities for john boehner may have been turned around. jared is an old jazz fan, as am i, and he knows that miles davis had a song called "so what" and i think that might be the background music right now as all the posturing is going on in public. the simple fact of the matter is that they are setting up the process for working out a deal after they have scared the daylights out of everybody, and it would seem to me that to quote another song, which is "what are you going to be doing new year's eve," i think that we'll be finding that these people are still hard at it and maybe calling congress into session tomorrow night which is a really rotten way to end the year. >> jared, explain for our viewers what it really means to go over the cliff. >> well, first of all, as a former jazz bassist i have to appreciate the citing of "so what" because that's a bass feature. look, i've got to say. going over the cliff at this point i think is better than accepting a bad deal, and i don't think that we should operate from the perspective that going
i think the priorities for john boehner may have been turned around. jared is an old jazz fan, as am i, and he knows that miles davis had a song called "so what" and i think that might be the background music right now as all the posturing is going on in public. the simple fact of the matter is that they are setting up the process for working out a deal after they have scared the daylights out of everybody, and it would seem to me that to quote another song, which is "what are...
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that would essentially be john boehner falling on his sword, diving on the grenade and giving up his speakership. you know, democrats might say this would be a great act of self-sacrifice, not the kind of thing you see in washington. there isn't any indication it's going to happen. it's worth reminding people, if we go over the cliff the world doesn't end. it gets worse the more time passes into january and god fored by february, but there's a good chance they will work something out in early january. unfortunately, the flip side, if they do a band-aid solution right now, we have the debt limit fight coming up. things are still in churn. it's not like it's black and white in the next 24 hours. >> really quickly, do you think the speaker would put a bill on the floor that he knew most of his republicans would vote against? >> that's a tough call. a lot of people say his speakership is safe but that vote happens on thursday. you have seen things implode, leadership fights. it's a dangerous thing do. >> it could be blessed, though. >> right. >> they could agree in advance, his members,
that would essentially be john boehner falling on his sword, diving on the grenade and giving up his speakership. you know, democrats might say this would be a great act of self-sacrifice, not the kind of thing you see in washington. there isn't any indication it's going to happen. it's worth reminding people, if we go over the cliff the world doesn't end. it gets worse the more time passes into january and god fored by february, but there's a good chance they will work something out in early...
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and he says, i went to john boehner, i offered him a trillion dollars in cuts, we're talking two to one cuts to income rates, why didn't you just take it? >> well, candy, that's interesting. i watched the interview. i don't think any american has ever seen the trillion dollars in cut that he offered. >> well, he -- >> and there's never been any specifics. if i were a president, i certainly would lay those out before the american people. i've been as involved with this as any senator in the united states senate, other than mitch mcconnell and harry reid. i have never seen those cuts, so i'd love to take those up on the senate floor. let me just say this, like every american, i'm disgusted with where we are. i know people are irritated at the president, they're irritated at congress, as they should be. there's no question that in the next few days or next few weeks, we're going to rescue most of the american people from a tax increase. we're going to do it. better to do it over the next day or two. but what hasn't happened in this debate is any discussion about real reductions, reforms in
and he says, i went to john boehner, i offered him a trillion dollars in cuts, we're talking two to one cuts to income rates, why didn't you just take it? >> well, candy, that's interesting. i watched the interview. i don't think any american has ever seen the trillion dollars in cut that he offered. >> well, he -- >> and there's never been any specifics. if i were a president, i certainly would lay those out before the american people. i've been as involved with this as any...
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there were only about 50 of us in the house who said that we were not going to vote for john boehner's deal last week. all they needed was 50 democrats to vote for the deal, and it would have passed last week but, no, he spent the entire day, the entire day of the deal, on the house floor attacking everything that john boehner was going to do. when john boehner actually tried to meet them halfway and now he comes here on national tv and he says that it's the republicans -- >> a little fact checking. raul, you got to get your facts right. the budget we brought and did have an alternative budget that got an overwhelming democratic vote did not say we're only going to raise taxes on people over a million dollars. it actually supported the president's proposals so you got to check your facts. what we're asking for in the house is the same thing the republicans got in the senate. an up-or-down vote on their proposal. >> raising taxes on those making over $250,000 a year. >> that's right, but, jon, what we're saying is you don't have to agree with us, just allow a vote in the house. the repu
there were only about 50 of us in the house who said that we were not going to vote for john boehner's deal last week. all they needed was 50 democrats to vote for the deal, and it would have passed last week but, no, he spent the entire day, the entire day of the deal, on the house floor attacking everything that john boehner was going to do. when john boehner actually tried to meet them halfway and now he comes here on national tv and he says that it's the republicans -- >> a little...
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one was the unof unfortunate, sad, unsuccess of john boehner's plan b, in the house why he could not herd the cats. but other part i think is you get only one president at a time. the president is presiding here. somehow with this president, it's always cliffs. it's never deals. it's always up to the last moment. i think there is a deficit there of very broad-minded leadership, and there is certainly a deficit of trust between the congress and the president, and 20 republican in congress and the democrats. so plenty of fault to go around. >> o'donnell: dee dee, what about that? mitch mcconnell, who is really now at the heart of make something sort of deal today about how far he can take republicans, he says the president called him last week. it was the first time he's talked to the president since november 16. why is-- is there something the president is responsible for that he's not reached out enough to republicans and established that kind of trust that there has been lacking? >> look, i would have liked to have seen the president do more reaching out during the entirety of his f
one was the unof unfortunate, sad, unsuccess of john boehner's plan b, in the house why he could not herd the cats. but other part i think is you get only one president at a time. the president is presiding here. somehow with this president, it's always cliffs. it's never deals. it's always up to the last moment. i think there is a deficit there of very broad-minded leadership, and there is certainly a deficit of trust between the congress and the president, and 20 republican in congress and...
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for john boehner or barack obama or mitch mcdonnell or harry reid, they have a big problem and a structural problem in the political system. >> we have to take a break f. you're sick of talking about the fiscal cliff, we're going it to take a break after this. some news for you. we'll debut the new polls with the top contenders for 2016. i'll ask you all to offer up some predictions for in new yearle as well. >>> we are back wrapping up the fiscal cliff talks. what i'm wondering here, matt, is we hear so often about a cliff. it's a natural disaster, falling off a cliff. you object to this. >> i do. it's important to remember this is not a fiscal cliff. the cliff as you say is something that occurs in nature. you come up on a cliff and if you don't slow down, you plummet to your death. this is a fiscal suicide vest. this is congress rigging the system and saying last year in 2011 it actually was, we can't be trusted to make good, mature decisions about what needs to be done. we're going to booby-trap the system, and if we can't act like adults this date certain, it will explode and be awful.
for john boehner or barack obama or mitch mcdonnell or harry reid, they have a big problem and a structural problem in the political system. >> we have to take a break f. you're sick of talking about the fiscal cliff, we're going it to take a break after this. some news for you. we'll debut the new polls with the top contenders for 2016. i'll ask you all to offer up some predictions for in new yearle as well. >>> we are back wrapping up the fiscal cliff talks. what i'm wondering...
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i feel sorry for john boehner. the reality is he's leading a house which is actually looking to not the 53% of americans that want do not want to see the yes go around the fiscal curve which is what the polls are showing but that's a national poll. the reality is, they're going back to districts where they are actually, you know, frankly, reporting to a very small percentage of the american public. and so we're not -- that's why the sonation is different in the senate and the house and that's really the problem that john boehner has. >> we are up against a very hard deadline here. i want to bring in the co-chair of the house progressive caucus. democratic congressman, keith ellis. right after this. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't roc
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has john boehner been deemed powerless by the developments and what the house voted and did not vote on that million dollars threshold? >> well, i don't know that i'd say powerless because if it does pass the senate he becomes quite powerful, but he's definitely on the sidelines on this president, and that may be just as well, quite frankly because i have to say if you bet on boehner and obama getting into a room together and making a deal, you'd have lost a lot of money over the last couple of years. on the other hand, when reid and mcdonnell, the two senate leaders get into a room together, they somehow seem to be able to find an accommodation. i think there's much more for compromise with the senate leaders. let them make a deal, i'm sure reid is talking to the president and conversely, mcconnell is talking to boehner what they can go for, but probably to have the actual deal making going on between the two senate leaders. >> dave: chris, i want to say farewell, last time i'll chat with you on air and always a pleasure having a conversation with you on sunday mornings, we apprecia
has john boehner been deemed powerless by the developments and what the house voted and did not vote on that million dollars threshold? >> well, i don't know that i'd say powerless because if it does pass the senate he becomes quite powerful, but he's definitely on the sidelines on this president, and that may be just as well, quite frankly because i have to say if you bet on boehner and obama getting into a room together and making a deal, you'd have lost a lot of money over the last...
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it was john boehner that walked away the negotiations to try plan-b and then it was mr. boehner who failed to pass the plan. and then it was mr. boehner who said it was somebody else's problem. what he has done is a debacle for the republicans. the white house has been sitting back and letting it happen. you can call it deal and jam. >> i am optimistic that we can reach an greept that can pass both houses in time. senators reed and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but, if an agreement is not reached in time, between reed and mcconnell, i will urge senator reed to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike and extends the vital life line of unemployment insurance for two million americans looking for a job and lays the groundwork for more cooperation on deficit reduction and economic growth. guys, i can hear you over there. i believe a proposal can pass both houses bipartisan majority. as long as they let it come to a vote. if members of the house or senate want to vote no, t
it was john boehner that walked away the negotiations to try plan-b and then it was mr. boehner who failed to pass the plan. and then it was mr. boehner who said it was somebody else's problem. what he has done is a debacle for the republicans. the white house has been sitting back and letting it happen. you can call it deal and jam. >> i am optimistic that we can reach an greept that can pass both houses in time. senators reed and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak....
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house speaker john boehner. as they left they sounded like they were closing in on a compromise. >> think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. >> we'll be working hard to try to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours, and so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> the president said the american public is getting frustrated and losing patience with these last-minute negotiations. he says the least congress can do is protect most american tax pairs from rising tax rates due to take effect in the next couple of days. the least, it appears, rebecca, appears to be the most they can do. >> thank you. we'll check back later in the program. for more on how we got into this situation and what happens if nothing happens. michael santoly, it's great to have both of you with us. where does this stand right now? >> right now they're negotiating and things are being worked out behind closed doors by the top leaders in the house and senate and the whi
house speaker john boehner. as they left they sounded like they were closing in on a compromise. >> think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. >> we'll be working hard to try to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours, and so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> the president said the american public is getting frustrated and losing patience with these last-minute negotiations. he says the least...
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john boehner is also crazy. none of them have any inkling, let alone a loyalty or fidelity, toward what would be good toward the american people. it is all about them. obama is going to retire in four years. he is looking at making millions of dollars on a speech circuit after that. john boehner is going to become a lobbyist. none of them care. host: we are going to leave it there. we have some items from . a couple of folks up in weighing in on facebook. -- a couple of folks have been weighing in on facebook. back to the telephones. ruth on the line for democrats. caller: they talk about the fiscal clef, but they are not really interested in fiske's -- fixing the fiscal cliff. there are interested in their own party. they have been against the president from the beginning, so they are not going to change anything. they do not want to help america. what people are they for? the people have spoken, but they do not ever listen to the people. what people are the working for? host: james in new york as a deadline fo
john boehner is also crazy. none of them have any inkling, let alone a loyalty or fidelity, toward what would be good toward the american people. it is all about them. obama is going to retire in four years. he is looking at making millions of dollars on a speech circuit after that. john boehner is going to become a lobbyist. none of them care. host: we are going to leave it there. we have some items from . a couple of folks up in weighing in on facebook. -- a couple of folks have been weighing...
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i think rubio has the inside track. >> let's do something a little more top call, which is john boehner and eric cantor. even politico was saying a year ago they call for a truce, their staffs were trying to find a way to work together. speaker vote is coming up january 3rd. boehner had a bad beating in that plan b vote. >> i think the main thing that boehner has going for him in the rivalry is he has the worst job in the world. >> is it really the worst job in the world? >> certainly the worst job in congress. speaker boehner has to sit there and eat a lot of stuff you wouldn't necessarily want to eat because there are a lot of republicans who basically want to emote, they want to act up and speaker boehner just has to take it and try to hammer deal and eric cantor, if he goes into boehner's role, he has to do the same thing boehner wants to do. >> the starting quarterback hates the number two quarterback and boehner, if he was smart, he should have dispatched him a long time ago and said, young man, i'm going to put you out to pasture if you pull that crap on me again. he made a mista
i think rubio has the inside track. >> let's do something a little more top call, which is john boehner and eric cantor. even politico was saying a year ago they call for a truce, their staffs were trying to find a way to work together. speaker vote is coming up january 3rd. boehner had a bad beating in that plan b vote. >> i think the main thing that boehner has going for him in the rivalry is he has the worst job in the world. >> is it really the worst job in the world?...
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i think boehner is pretty safe because there's not a challenger. >> if john boehner is safe at his job, that opportunidoesn't e at all relevant. isn't that right? >> i think that's right. but it's in large part because boehner could n't get his plan through the house. i could only imagine how angry they are because they put him into this bind in which he has to ne dpoegotiate with harry re. and then it also gets house democrat support. all the while, he's got an eye when he's up for reelection. house speaker boehner has shown that he's looargely, not entire, but larngly. remember, his deputies were both there with him when plan b was introduced. the logical successes aren't actually there. >> paul ryan is not the guy to watch, right? so paul ryan is the guy who has the real support of the house con sefbtives. a lot of people don't like boehner, they love paul ryan. now ryan, at the final minute, remember, he was with you for plan b. paul ryan, probably the most high profile guy, he's not running against boehner. he's not even interested. >> but robert, if the president gets this throug
i think boehner is pretty safe because there's not a challenger. >> if john boehner is safe at his job, that opportunidoesn't e at all relevant. isn't that right? >> i think that's right. but it's in large part because boehner could n't get his plan through the house. i could only imagine how angry they are because they put him into this bind in which he has to ne dpoegotiate with harry re. and then it also gets house democrat support. all the while, he's got an eye when he's up for...
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if mcconnell and reid can hammer out a deal that's acceptable to both of them i believe that john boehner will let that deal come up for a vote in the house, and i believe that vote will pass in the house though probably with majority democrat. if that happens, we may well have a deal. >> you said a big f, though. if mcconnel and reid can hammer something out. the senate hasn't passed a budget in years, jared. tell me, how is harry reid going to come up with something by monday? >> well, as you've been stressing for most of the show, correct me, this is not a budget. this is a last-minute deal that's going to have a few components and i will count them on one hand that will have a tax threshold. 250. i wouldn't be surprised if they went to him with a higher number. u.n. extension, doc fix and the umt with the sequester and that would be it. >> jimmy p., what do you think? will we have a deal on monday and is it going to be enough? >> i think we will have a deal. one big difference now than maybe a couple of weeks, three weeks ago is a lot of republicans believe that eventually they really
if mcconnell and reid can hammer out a deal that's acceptable to both of them i believe that john boehner will let that deal come up for a vote in the house, and i believe that vote will pass in the house though probably with majority democrat. if that happens, we may well have a deal. >> you said a big f, though. if mcconnel and reid can hammer something out. the senate hasn't passed a budget in years, jared. tell me, how is harry reid going to come up with something by monday? >>...
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rubio has the inside track. >> let's do something more topical, which is john boehner and eric cantor. the atmosphere up on capitol hill has been like the roman senate for a long time now. these folks working together in leadership, but even over a year ago, politico was running an article saying boehner and eric cantor call for a truce, talking about a year of behind the scenes bitter fighting. their staffs were trying to find a way to work together. speaker vote is coming up january 3rd. boehner had a bad beating in the plan "b" vote. you don't think this is going to get better, do you? >> the main thing he has going for him in that rivalry is he has the worst job in the world. >> really, the worst job? >> certainly the worst job in congress. basically, speaker boehner has to sit there and eat a lot of stuff that you wouldn't necessarily eat because there are a lot of republicans who basically want to emote, they want to act up. and speaker boehner just has to take it and try to hammer deals. and eric cantor goes into his role, he has to do the same thing boehner has to do. >> the s
rubio has the inside track. >> let's do something more topical, which is john boehner and eric cantor. the atmosphere up on capitol hill has been like the roman senate for a long time now. these folks working together in leadership, but even over a year ago, politico was running an article saying boehner and eric cantor call for a truce, talking about a year of behind the scenes bitter fighting. their staffs were trying to find a way to work together. speaker vote is coming up january...
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>> well, you know what, richard, i think this could be john boehner learning the lesson of not to put out any specifics he can't deliver on. we were just talking about that before. he's been burned before by sort of laying out the contours of what he's working out with the president only to have his caucus slap him down and tell him no. so i think the problem is, as well, he's already said he wants the senate to go first, which a little thing called the constitution case the house has to originate spending and tax bills. most 6 this should be on boehner's shoulder. his chamber is where tax and spending bills are supposed to emerge. maybe it's because they are working out details and boehner doesn't want to get burned again. >> leigh gallagher from "fortune" magazine, thanks for sticking around, by the way. >> sure. >> harry reid also said he's had his confidence, this is a quote, he's had his confidence destroyed on other occasions so i hope it's not on this occasion, too. a lot of people have had their hopes dashed here, the markets we were just talking about. obviously, people who a
>> well, you know what, richard, i think this could be john boehner learning the lesson of not to put out any specifics he can't deliver on. we were just talking about that before. he's been burned before by sort of laying out the contours of what he's working out with the president only to have his caucus slap him down and tell him no. so i think the problem is, as well, he's already said he wants the senate to go first, which a little thing called the constitution case the house has to...
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if there are going to be the spending cuts, that what we want to hear, john boehner. he's the adult in the room right now, guys and is looking like the bad guy because we have to stop the spending cuts. hitting the ceiling on the debt ceiling by monday. $16.3 trillion. you can't put a band-aid on this and suspect everything is going to be great and have howie mandel say deal or no deal. not good for the overall markets or economy. >> it's clear that revenue is not on the table. >> what do you do, run for the s? panic is not an investment strategy. give us some good advice. >> this is a headline-driven market, so if there is any type of positive news out of washington, look for stocks to act positively. realistically you want to be in treasuries. cash or treasuries. only with the help from ben bernanke and company. >> thank you, guys. >> we'll keep an eye on that, too, as a matter of fact. thank you, guys. we'll see you later and wall street is throwing in the towel as we head towards the close. apparently fewer people want to be long going into the weekend. the dow no
if there are going to be the spending cuts, that what we want to hear, john boehner. he's the adult in the room right now, guys and is looking like the bad guy because we have to stop the spending cuts. hitting the ceiling on the debt ceiling by monday. $16.3 trillion. you can't put a band-aid on this and suspect everything is going to be great and have howie mandel say deal or no deal. not good for the overall markets or economy. >> it's clear that revenue is not on the table. >>...
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republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jessica, we said up front, it is a long shot, give us a best case scenario. >> reporter: the best case scenario would be that all the leaders walk out of this meeting and say they have a deal. the two senators say they can bring it to a vote, and none of their members will filibuster it. house speaker john boehner says he will bring it to the house floor for a vote before new year'
republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called...
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we saw yesterday senate majority leader harry reid basically accusing john boehner of running a deck tate toreship, that was his word in the house of representatives. reid piled on a little bit late yesterday afternoon and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell responded. take a listen. >> speaker boehner should call members of the house back to washington today. he shouldn't have let them two in fact. they're not here. they're not here. john boehner seeps to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> reporter: there have been all eyes on senator mitch mcconnell, the republican leader, the counterpart to harry reid because he has been pretty quiet early on in the negotiations. was defering speaker boehner to give the republican side. after hearing senator reid yesterday, senator mcconnell fired back. take a listen. >> we're coming up against a hard deadline here and i said, this is a conversation we should had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just becaus
we saw yesterday senate majority leader harry reid basically accusing john boehner of running a deck tate toreship, that was his word in the house of representatives. reid piled on a little bit late yesterday afternoon and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell responded. take a listen. >> speaker boehner should call members of the house back to washington today. he shouldn't have let them two in fact. they're not here. they're not here. john boehner seeps to care more about keeping his...
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the important though, i think, is mcconnell and the senate is important, but ultimately john boehner has said he wants the majority of republican members of the house to vote for whatever deal happens. that's a key factor. they have to agree to something that president obama also agrees to. that's a big gap. basically he's -- i don't know that there's 120 house republican votes for that yet. plan b was voted on, a -- house republicans wouldn't approve of that, either. the how is like a big block here on any kind of permanent deal. >>> i want to bring in debbie wasserman schultz, florida democrat and head of the dnc. congresswoman, when you look at what's happening today, you know, this meeting that's going to be happening at 3:00 p.m., what's going to be talked about there, what do you think? >> look, as long as the leaders are talking, there is still time for us to hammer out a deand prevent us from going over the fiscal cliff. what will be talked about today is what do the outlines and parameters of a possible deal look like that can be agreed to by a majority of democrats and repu
the important though, i think, is mcconnell and the senate is important, but ultimately john boehner has said he wants the majority of republican members of the house to vote for whatever deal happens. that's a key factor. they have to agree to something that president obama also agrees to. that's a big gap. basically he's -- i don't know that there's 120 house republican votes for that yet. plan b was voted on, a -- house republicans wouldn't approve of that, either. the how is like a big...
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. >> president obama has invited nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid to the white house this afternoon for a fiscal cliff summit. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> today's white house meeting might be the last chance to come to an agreement. that's because it takes time for a bill to work its way through both chamber of commerce. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> under senate rules, the only way a bill could make its way through the procedural hurdles in time is if every senator agrees not to. they'll have 24 hours. outside the beltway, carlino will be watching. >> everyone is kind of in a wait-and-see and fingers-crossed per expect tichb right now. >> since 1930 this is only the fifth time congress has worked after christmas. and today's summit is the first time president obama has met face to face with congressional leaders since mid-november. duarte, tick tock. >> thank you. >>> general schwarzkopf is being remembered this morning as a great hero and tactician. as teresa garcia the general died y
. >> president obama has invited nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid to the white house this afternoon for a fiscal cliff summit. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> today's white house meeting might be the last chance to come to an agreement. that's because it takes time for a bill to work its way through both chamber of commerce. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> under senate...
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john boehner said let me get third plan b . everybody is like where are the republicans on this? they should have stayed firm on the ryan plan. it was the best . back track a year ago. this stems from the failure of the super committee that stemmed from the simpson-bowles commission failing. simpson-bowles. they got together and made the recommendation to president obama who commissioned that study can. >> kelly: and yet rejected it. >> that fail would and went to the super committee. they need to get together. >> julia: if you watched fox news channel yesterday. there is a map with red dots and that is the newspaper and the lower hudson valley of upstate new york published the addresses of gun owners and now as you were talking eric, one lawmaker want to make that illegal. >> lawmaker state senator greg ball had this to say on cavuto. >> it is not upon illegal. this is not the first time the editorial board has done it. we have a bipartisan bill in the assembly and it is it a liberal new york state . this bill can get done. it is not about the second amendment only. it is a priv
john boehner said let me get third plan b . everybody is like where are the republicans on this? they should have stayed firm on the ryan plan. it was the best . back track a year ago. this stems from the failure of the super committee that stemmed from the simpson-bowles commission failing. simpson-bowles. they got together and made the recommendation to president obama who commissioned that study can. >> kelly: and yet rejected it. >> that fail would and went to the super...
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there will be a new election for speaker of the house, presumably john boehner will be re-elected. there will be a different house of representatives. however, still a republican majority but a small er majorit. boehner has a newly affirmed position and perhaps the dynamic is a bit different. but, you know, then again maybe it will be the same as it's been the last couple of years. >> richard, you know what i think bothers some people bothers me. it's that there is a small segment it seems of the republican caucus in the house of representatives who were unable to accept the results of the election in 2008 and steamed to continue to be unable to accept the results of the election in 2012. thus, they feel they have a license to hold the country hostage because they don't agree with two presidential elections, which is truly, truly if you think about it enough, which i choose not to, is rather bothersome. >> it's bothersome, and it doesn't fit their own agenda. in addition to object structure things they want to keep taxes down for most americans. it's not just about the tea party re
there will be a new election for speaker of the house, presumably john boehner will be re-elected. there will be a different house of representatives. however, still a republican majority but a small er majorit. boehner has a newly affirmed position and perhaps the dynamic is a bit different. but, you know, then again maybe it will be the same as it's been the last couple of years. >> richard, you know what i think bothers some people bothers me. it's that there is a small segment it...
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boehner can bring his troops along. i think we have pretty strong evidence of that a real tough one for him. at this point, unless he's willing to say, i'll allow a vote to get over the transom with majority democrats then it looks to me like we're going over the cliff and i don't think he's willing to do that before the end of the year. i do think relative to something you guys were just talking about, that a bungee jump scenario is actually kind of plausible. and i think that's what they may be talking about at the white house today. how can we quickly reverse the damage? >> okay. now that we've ghot. the cliff out of the way, what's are number one biggest, most out rangeious prediction in 2013? >> i don't know how outrageous it is, my number one prediction is what i call the three "is." investment, immigration and implementation. eamon talked about immigration. i think he's 100% right on that. i think the political stars are uniquely aligned. investment in public goods. this is really important it's part of the presi
boehner can bring his troops along. i think we have pretty strong evidence of that a real tough one for him. at this point, unless he's willing to say, i'll allow a vote to get over the transom with majority democrats then it looks to me like we're going over the cliff and i don't think he's willing to do that before the end of the year. i do think relative to something you guys were just talking about, that a bungee jump scenario is actually kind of plausible. and i think that's what they may...
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john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership. than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> reporter: the republican leader responded saying it's democrats who failed to lead. >> make no mistake, the only reason the democrats have been trying to deflect attention onto me and my colleagues over the past few weeks, is that they don't have a plan of their own. >> reporter: president obama returned to washington for a last-minute push before leaving vacation in hawaii, he had separate phone conversations with congressional leaders. but it's not clear the talks helped. house republican leaders say they'll take action on whatever bill the senate can pass. but the senate must act first. brandi and muhammad? >> thank you. oh, to be a fly on the wall today in that meeting when it all happens. >> we've been talking all week about this going down to the deadline. i mean, we are right at that deadline. this is going to be a photo finish. i mean, if this was a race -- >> and if the house ends up adjourning, it usually takes 48 h
john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership. than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> reporter: the republican leader responded saying it's democrats who failed to lead. >> make no mistake, the only reason the democrats have been trying to deflect attention onto me and my colleagues over the past few weeks, is that they don't have a plan of their own. >> reporter: president obama returned to washington for a last-minute push before leaving...
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. >> underscoring that urgency, house speaker john boehner says the house will meet in a rare sunday session. >> reporter: it may already be too late. days before the fiscal cliff, and with the house of representatives out of town until sunday, senate majority leader harry reid admitted a deal seems unlikely. >> i have to be very honest, mr. president, i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> reporter: in a scathing attack, reid called house speaker john boehner a dictator, and blamed him for letting members stay home with no deal in sight. >> we are here in washington, working. while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching their kids play soccer and basketball. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership. >> reporter: the republican leader responded saying it's democrats who failed to lead. >> make no mistake, the only reason the democrats have been trying to deflect attention onto me and my colleagues is that they don't have a plan of their own. >> reporter: president obama returned to washington for a last-minute p
. >> underscoring that urgency, house speaker john boehner says the house will meet in a rare sunday session. >> reporter: it may already be too late. days before the fiscal cliff, and with the house of representatives out of town until sunday, senate majority leader harry reid admitted a deal seems unlikely. >> i have to be very honest, mr. president, i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> reporter: in a scathing attack, reid called house speaker john boehner...
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. >>> coming up, the man in the middle of the republican circus, john boehner. let's figure out this guy. what is his story? he's the leader of the party that doesn't want to be led by him or anybody. they don't even -- well, it's not even actually a political party. it's a faction of tea party people telling the most republicans that they're not playing ball with them. >>> also tonight, hating hillary. that was the intriguing idea behind a politico story. when will the right learn to rekindle its hatred for hillary. everybody played the hillary card lately saying how great she was on the right so they could make obama look bad. at some point they will have to confront hillary clinton herself as the chief democrat in the country. when will they pivot? >>> if you're worried we'll soon be governed by sharia law, have no fear. republicans are keeping us safe from something that was never going to happen anyway. that and other low lights there 2012 in the "sideshow." >>> and finally my hopes for the upcoming year, especially from the president. this is "hardball," t
. >>> coming up, the man in the middle of the republican circus, john boehner. let's figure out this guy. what is his story? he's the leader of the party that doesn't want to be led by him or anybody. they don't even -- well, it's not even actually a political party. it's a faction of tea party people telling the most republicans that they're not playing ball with them. >>> also tonight, hating hillary. that was the intriguing idea behind a politico story. when will the right...
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speaker john boehner calls the house back into session for sunday night. that stokes investor hopes for a fiscal cliff deal and this coming just a few hours after harry reid's comments sent the dow into a tailspin. we have complete coverage in this developing story which is happening tonight as we speak. also, as supplies from the obama team, ep achieve lisa jackson stepping down. can the coal companies finally breathe a sigh of relief? guess what happened in britain when the uk banned handguns. the surprising result that could change the gun control debate. "the kudlow report" start ises right now. >>> the big news tonight, still the developments in washington on the fiscal cliff, eamon javers joins us with the details. >> good evening, meshel. capitol hill sources tell cnbc that congressional leaders are planning to go to the white house tomorrow to meet with president barack obama and it is not entirely clear at this point when that meeting will take place and details are still being hammered out and we saw today a blistering series of rhetorical jabs f
speaker john boehner calls the house back into session for sunday night. that stokes investor hopes for a fiscal cliff deal and this coming just a few hours after harry reid's comments sent the dow into a tailspin. we have complete coverage in this developing story which is happening tonight as we speak. also, as supplies from the obama team, ep achieve lisa jackson stepping down. can the coal companies finally breathe a sigh of relief? guess what happened in britain when the uk banned...
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as john has been saying, that's the biggest risk factor to look that. he gave that and he expected, his caucus expected a on the from the president. he didn't get any 2013 or '14 real spending cuts. they got long-term promises, most people in washington won't be in office in ten years. that's the sticking point. it comes down to medicare, spending cuts 2013, 2014. you have to trade what i've been saying of the last month. i've been buying on the moments of fear, receiving the rallies. ill think we're going to get a deal but you have to trade around that. >> let's hone in on that. let's say december 31st passes, we're there january 1st, january 2nd is the first trading day, market participants can react to what is a lack of news. they are working in washington to get a deal together, is that going to be an inflection point of fear in the markets? >> just before, as we saw today, probably going to have one more of those moments of fear and then we're going to get a 30 to 40-yard punt. and it's going to be a deal without an extension of the debt ceiling. s
as john has been saying, that's the biggest risk factor to look that. he gave that and he expected, his caucus expected a on the from the president. he didn't get any 2013 or '14 real spending cuts. they got long-term promises, most people in washington won't be in office in ten years. that's the sticking point. it comes down to medicare, spending cuts 2013, 2014. you have to trade what i've been saying of the last month. i've been buying on the moments of fear, receiving the rallies. ill think...
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boehner was trying to get the members to vote for. i think we need to get democratic votes on the senate side and republican votes on the house side. >> the game plan is to get some sort of comprehensive tax reform next year, hearing that in the is not and house. moderates like yourself, like olimpia snowe and joe lieberman and dig lugar, and on and, is it possible with the new conditioning next year to get some sort of tax reform when it's been impossible for the last year and a half. >> i hope so. we don't control but one house, and the democrats control one house and the presidency. we can't get everything we want. i am a don't raise taxes on anybody republican. >> but you're willing to compromise on that though, right? >> i certainly would rather have something somewhat lower than anything and try to see if we can get the development come up from 250. to be able to give the amt relief and the marriage penalty, child tax credit, even state tax relief for farmers and ranchers, those are all things that affect everyone in this countr
boehner was trying to get the members to vote for. i think we need to get democratic votes on the senate side and republican votes on the house side. >> the game plan is to get some sort of comprehensive tax reform next year, hearing that in the is not and house. moderates like yourself, like olimpia snowe and joe lieberman and dig lugar, and on and, is it possible with the new conditioning next year to get some sort of tax reform when it's been impossible for the last year and a half....
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we heard from house speaker john boehner earlier today. where is this? clearly it looks like now it's in the senate's hands. >> that's right. it is absolutely in the senate's handings, has been effectively since the house speaker failed to pass his so-called plan b proposal last week. and so what is going on behind the scenes right now, suzanne, is the senate democratic leader is trying to figure out if he can cobable together enough votes, which would mean he would have to have probably significant crossover to get some votes to at least pass the bear bare minimum to ahouseholds with incomes of less than $200,000. >> the speaker has just a few days left to change his mind but i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know time-wise how it can happen now. >> so there's a time issue because we're only five days away, but most importantly there's a political and process issue. the political issue we've talkeder this the last few days, suzanne. it's a question of whether or not there's enough lawmakers, willing to take the vote which would effectivel
we heard from house speaker john boehner earlier today. where is this? clearly it looks like now it's in the senate's hands. >> that's right. it is absolutely in the senate's handings, has been effectively since the house speaker failed to pass his so-called plan b proposal last week. and so what is going on behind the scenes right now, suzanne, is the senate democratic leader is trying to figure out if he can cobable together enough votes, which would mean he would have to have probably...
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john boehner couldn't even pass his plan in the house. that was something that was worked up by him and eric cantor and others. so the real test here and i think challenge the president and john boehner sitting down again over the next three or four days. i think we have a few more days. we go over the cliff on the first but the new congress isn't sworn in until january 3rd. if they can work out, maybe just a small deal now. maybe down payments on cuts. maybe it is protecting, certainly protecting tax cuts for the middle class and small businesses and doing, you know, a few things to medicare, and then that gets us into next year where we can do bigger stuff like corporate tax reform and larger reforms to the tax code. jon: amos, what do you think about that proposal? >> that proposal, the whole situation is telling. we didn't have to be here. we all saw this coming for months. we knew it was coming. doug is right, house republicans did act. they acted to stop the defense cuts and stop the tax hikes. what happened since then, senate democ
john boehner couldn't even pass his plan in the house. that was something that was worked up by him and eric cantor and others. so the real test here and i think challenge the president and john boehner sitting down again over the next three or four days. i think we have a few more days. we go over the cliff on the first but the new congress isn't sworn in until january 3rd. if they can work out, maybe just a small deal now. maybe down payments on cuts. maybe it is protecting, certainly...
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john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on firm financial footing it is obvious, mr. president, what is going on around here. he is waiting to january 3rd to get re-elected as speaker before he gets serious with negotiations because he has so many people over there that won't follow what he wants, that's obvious from the debacle that takes place last week and it was a debacle. he made an offer to the president. the president came back, they are just a little bit ap he walked away from that and went to plan b. but -- which all you did is whack people who need help the most. poor people. and he couldn't even pass that. remember, he is not letting the house of representatives vote, he is letting the republicans vote. it was so bad, he was in such difficult shape there he wouldn't even allow a vote to take with his republicans because he knew he would lose. for months, he has allowhood house republicans to hold middle class taxpayers hostage to protect the richest 2% and the funny part about that, mr. president, the 2% don't want to be protected
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now, the house leader john boehner says he will give house members 48 hours before he calls them back. that means the earliest they'll be back is on saturday. so are they just passing the buck to the senate? >> i think that's what's happening in both chambers right now. you saw a return statement from senate majority leader harry reid's spokesman yesterday talking about the incompetence of the house. these two sides are pointing fingers at each other. you have a situation now where these guys are completely confident or at least confident enough that their strategies are the right ones for them that they're not moving off the ball at all. and without any sort of movement, that's why you hear so much pessimism. >> i think part of it is they're afraid of spooking the markets, right? no gop senator wants to sign -- wants to vote for tax increases if the bill's not going to pass. that looks bad to their constituents. and as one democratic source told our dan that bash, this will be the last train we have and there is no sense in it leaving the station before we have assurance it will get
now, the house leader john boehner says he will give house members 48 hours before he calls them back. that means the earliest they'll be back is on saturday. so are they just passing the buck to the senate? >> i think that's what's happening in both chambers right now. you saw a return statement from senate majority leader harry reid's spokesman yesterday talking about the incompetence of the house. these two sides are pointing fingers at each other. you have a situation now where these...
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. >> reporter: the current budget negotiations between president obama and house speaker john boehner also could mean the reduction of the popular deduction for charitable contributions. >> if it came to the point where i wasn't receiving my credit for helping out a charity or even helping them out in their situation then why would i even help them out? >> statements like that that has the chief eck eastboundtive officer of the united way of the bay area and other nonprofits fighting to retain charitable deductions. >> it would be a big mistake to think this is only a benefit for high income people. there are many donors who itemize their taxes and they take advantage of the charitable tax deduction and they include very middle income people. >> reporter: also on the table is the possible elimination of the mortgage deduction. >> if that were to happen eventually i think that would have to be phased out over a long period of time. >> i think it encourages people to buy houses versus renting. and if they were lower the mortgage rate reduction, people will think twice. >> cpa mark britt
. >> reporter: the current budget negotiations between president obama and house speaker john boehner also could mean the reduction of the popular deduction for charitable contributions. >> if it came to the point where i wasn't receiving my credit for helping out a charity or even helping them out in their situation then why would i even help them out? >> statements like that that has the chief eck eastboundtive officer of the united way of the bay area and other nonprofits...
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reed is now working on a smaller deal than the one the president negotiate yatesed with house speaker john boehner. >> the package reportedly preventing tax increases on middle class families and cut some spending programs but it's not clear such a plan could pass. >> star bucks is using its coffee cups to jump into washington politics. the world's biggest coffee chain asking employees and cafes to write something other than customer names on cups wanting workers to scribble words come together on cups this week as a message to lawmakers to settle this fiscal cliff issue. >> jipgs president morsi signed the country's new constitution into law today. >> he called on the opposition to the opposition restricted the new constitution. >> the parts were draft bid islamist leaders. morsi revoked sweeping powers he granted himself last month. saying they were in necessary to get a referendum on the constitution. >> in syria, president assad's commander says he was defecting and joining the open sismgs he was one of the most senior members of the inner circle saying he defected because the army had
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the home county of house speaker john boehner butler county, ohio, currently under a blizzard warning. house republican leaders holding a conference call earlier today on the fiscal cliff, but so far they have not yet called on lawmakers to return to capitol hill. but they have said they will give a 48 hour warning if they plan to do that the white house saying the president is cutting his holiday vacation in hawaii short to return to d.c. to work on a deal to try to stop those automatic tax hikes and deep spending cuts from kicking in on january 1st. and if they don't reach a deal before then, many economists say we will dip back into a recession. i had henly house republican leaders didn't have a lot of new information for their lawmakers. they would have 48 hour notice if they are needed to pray back to washington from various districts around the country. that tells us they are being noncommittal at this point because they frankly do not know whether or not there will be a deal to avert the fiscal cliff. now, after that conference call. the house speaker john boehner, his number t
the home county of house speaker john boehner butler county, ohio, currently under a blizzard warning. house republican leaders holding a conference call earlier today on the fiscal cliff, but so far they have not yet called on lawmakers to return to capitol hill. but they have said they will give a 48 hour warning if they plan to do that the white house saying the president is cutting his holiday vacation in hawaii short to return to d.c. to work on a deal to try to stop those automatic tax...
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john boehner can't. he just can't pass a bill off his floor with a majority democrats and 20 republicans. >> the house already voted to extend all of the bush tax cuts. >> and the senate -- >> house leaders are right to say the ball is in the senate's court. until they act we can't know -- what kind of deal we come up with. >> the ball is always in the senate's court. that's how it works. >> you are both argue being process. here is what i don't understand. i stay to democrats that come on, what p the republicans voted to extend taxes on everybody that you want, would you means test social security and medicare? the vast majority say oh, no, no, no, no. >> not this democrat. i would absolutely support it. >> unfortunately you are not in congress. >> you are right. >> i talked to republicans. i said, listen, if tomorrow the democrats had an epiphany and decided representative ryan planes for making medicare a voucher system were the best thing to do, would you vote to raise taxes on millionaires and have
john boehner can't. he just can't pass a bill off his floor with a majority democrats and 20 republicans. >> the house already voted to extend all of the bush tax cuts. >> and the senate -- >> house leaders are right to say the ball is in the senate's court. until they act we can't know -- what kind of deal we come up with. >> the ball is always in the senate's court. that's how it works. >> you are both argue being process. here is what i don't understand. i stay...
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. >> reporter: congress reached this brink before christmas when speaker john boehner failed to get enough house republicans to support his solution, threw up his hands and said it's up to leader reid and the president. >> how we get there, god only knows. >> reporter: aides say reid's plan would avoid tax increases for people making less than $250,000, eliminate spending cuts and restore unemployment benefits. >> what needs to happen now is for a sense of desperation among lawmakers to kick in and realize that if we go past january 1st with no deal, the markets are likely to decline in a significant way and alarm most americans. they don't want to have themselves blamed for that. >> reporter: meanwhile, public pressure is mounting. countdown clocks are springing up, and today starbucks asked employees to begin writing "come together" on coffee cups. now, speaker boehner has not yet called the house back into session. meanwhile, treasury secretary tim geithner told congressional leaders today that the nation has almost reached its borrowing limit. the debate over whether to increase that l
. >> reporter: congress reached this brink before christmas when speaker john boehner failed to get enough house republicans to support his solution, threw up his hands and said it's up to leader reid and the president. >> how we get there, god only knows. >> reporter: aides say reid's plan would avoid tax increases for people making less than $250,000, eliminate spending cuts and restore unemployment benefits. >> what needs to happen now is for a sense of desperation...
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house speaker john boehner says the senate needs to act first. meantime, just about 40 minutes ago, tim geithner said the u.s. is simply running out of money. let's get the latest on this game of chicken from c nbc's chief political correspondent, john harwood. john? >> melissa, i want to bring you up to date on the fiscal cliff developments. first of all, as you mentioned, secretary geithner has informed the senate that the united states government will hit its debt ceiling on monday. that is december 31st. now, that doesn't mean that anything happens immediately, because the treasury can take various steps to postpone the moment of reckoning, probably a couple of months. it's still significant. that's an effort to pressure congress. secondly, the house republicans have met, leadership has met, sent a letter to democrats saying the house has acted, now it's up to the senate to act. that's, of course, the m theic-controlled senate which has no intention of taking up that house bill, which would extend all of the bush tax cuts. the president wants
house speaker john boehner says the senate needs to act first. meantime, just about 40 minutes ago, tim geithner said the u.s. is simply running out of money. let's get the latest on this game of chicken from c nbc's chief political correspondent, john harwood. john? >> melissa, i want to bring you up to date on the fiscal cliff developments. first of all, as you mentioned, secretary geithner has informed the senate that the united states government will hit its debt ceiling on monday....
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john harwood, thanks. see you later. don't worry, be happy. one of our next guests says should we go over the fiscal cliff, someone else on wall street says the cliff will not be a doomsday event. we'll get them to make their case coming up. >> and also later on. facebook making an about face on using user photos for advertising. >> and winter storm euclid is pummeling the east coast. the latest storm and storm track coming up in the next hour of the program. you're watching cnbc, first in business worldwide. plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our teams have the information you want when you need it. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. you won't take our future. aids affects us all. even babies. chevron is working to stop mother-to-child transmission. our employees and their families are part of the fight. and we're winning. at chevron nigeria, we
john harwood, thanks. see you later. don't worry, be happy. one of our next guests says should we go over the fiscal cliff, someone else on wall street says the cliff will not be a doomsday event. we'll get them to make their case coming up. >> and also later on. facebook making an about face on using user photos for advertising. >> and winter storm euclid is pummeling the east coast. the latest storm and storm track coming up in the next hour of the program. you're watching cnbc,...
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john boehner has pretty much held steady, 25%, 26%, what have you. so you look at that and you you s see this crisis, other crises where the president and the congress are in a standoff. is it almost advantage the executive because the president's one guy against many? >> his approval rating is going up, he should be in a powerful position. unfortunately for him, the house of representatives is not going along with him because they don't care what the president's approval rating is. most republicans that john boehner has to control are in safe districts. i was looking at this before. only about 10 republicans were reelected in 2012 with a margin of under i think five points. so most of these guys are in safe republican sgridistricts t voted against obama and in 2014 what they care about is making sure they don't have a primary challenge on the right. incentives in the house of representatives are for the aligned with what has to get done.the aligned with what has to get done. >> you hit the nail on the head. i'm told by republican sources in a accord
john boehner has pretty much held steady, 25%, 26%, what have you. so you look at that and you you s see this crisis, other crises where the president and the congress are in a standoff. is it almost advantage the executive because the president's one guy against many? >> his approval rating is going up, he should be in a powerful position. unfortunately for him, the house of representatives is not going along with him because they don't care what the president's approval rating is. most...
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john boehner said it's up to the president and harry reid so are both sides standing at the precipice waiting for each other to make the next move. >> not really. it really is all up to john boehner to decide whether he wants to bring this vote to the house floor. if he doesn't, i would put on either your cliff bungee cord or your cliff parachute and that's actually an important difference. >> we would like a bungee cord and a parachute. >> right. >> but i would like to know maybe we have neither. what do you think happens to the market, matt, in either scenario, deal or no deal? >> i can't imagine we're going to get a deal done with any significance. you know, they are probably going to change it as we go forward so maybe they will let us go over the cliff, the market will crash a little bit. i don't want to say crash as in crash but we could retrace some of the gains and a rough start to 2013 until they finally realize that maybe the large-cap companies could be leading us through the rallies. maybe it will take the stocks back up the latter half of 2013, first quarter. >> oliver, w
john boehner said it's up to the president and harry reid so are both sides standing at the precipice waiting for each other to make the next move. >> not really. it really is all up to john boehner to decide whether he wants to bring this vote to the house floor. if he doesn't, i would put on either your cliff bungee cord or your cliff parachute and that's actually an important difference. >> we would like a bungee cord and a parachute. >> right. >> but i would like to...
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boehner who may be asked before it's over to put on the floor of the house a bill that lacks support of the majority of his own members. that is something that would be a risk on the speaker's part as he faces a re-election by the house of representatives to the speakership in early january, but we'll see whether if it comes to that, whether he's willing to do it. 8. >> john, thank you very much. >>> as we edge ever closer to our impending fiscal doom, we will look more closely how the markets are reacting and what is yet to come. joining us now, michael farr in washington, and also peter schear. great to have you both with us. thanks for coming back from various holidays. michael, this is not an economic crisis. this is not a market crisis. this feels like a political crisis. do you blame our leaders for failing to get their act together over this? >> mandy, it is a profound failure of leadership once again from washington. i mean, we have been facing this profligate spending for a long time. over the last four years it's been $5 trillion more than we've brought in in receipts. just
boehner who may be asked before it's over to put on the floor of the house a bill that lacks support of the majority of his own members. that is something that would be a risk on the speaker's part as he faces a re-election by the house of representatives to the speakership in early january, but we'll see whether if it comes to that, whether he's willing to do it. 8. >> john, thank you very much. >>> as we edge ever closer to our impending fiscal doom, we will look more closely...
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john boehner from the very beginning put 800 billion in revenue on the table. the president was known to say, well, that's mine. i get that one for free. i don't have to give anything in return. the president in addressing a deficit added $1.6 trillion in new spending. gregg: yeah. >> so who are we joking right now? the president has never taken the spending side of this equation seriously, which is why we don't have a deal. republicans have put their necks on the line supporting new revenues, the president's not coming through. gregg: senator barrasso said the president does want to go over the cliff, because he wants to punish republicans. is there something to that? >> i don't think there's anything to that, but the reality is that if he wants to get anything done, he has two options. he either breaks the republicans on taxes, or he breaks the republicans. i read that somewhere, and i thought it was a fantastic quote. but i do think that he is going -- i don't think any of us want to see the country go off the cliff. gregg: maybe he just didn't think $16 tri
john boehner from the very beginning put 800 billion in revenue on the table. the president was known to say, well, that's mine. i get that one for free. i don't have to give anything in return. the president in addressing a deficit added $1.6 trillion in new spending. gregg: yeah. >> so who are we joking right now? the president has never taken the spending side of this equation seriously, which is why we don't have a deal. republicans have put their necks on the line supporting new...